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一个 Debian stable update 的人辞职了

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发表于 2006-3-9 21:30:44 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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For those who care about stable updates

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  • Subject: For those who care about stable updates
  • From: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>
  • Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:32:07 +0100
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I'm sorry to announce this but you'll have to find a new person who works
on updating Debian stable and who is willing to cope with black holes and
ftpmasters.

I'm sick of being left in the void.  I'm sick of ftpmasters not answering
mails from the stable release manager to negotiate a timeline.  I'm sick of
ftpmasters suddenly creating arbitrary preconditions for stable updates.
I'm sick of having to ask again and again and being constantly blocked by
them.

I'm sick of this entire situation.  It makes me ill, angry and utterly
frustrated.  It causes me being frustrated of Debian and unable to work on
other issues, needing a rest more often that planned.  I should do better
with my limited life.  Hence, I give up.  Congratulations.

I have worked on updates to the stable Debian distribution since 2001 after
I noticed that nobody is trying to integrate security updates into the once
released distribution so that the archive does not contain tons of known
security updates.  I've tried to get stable updates done on a regular basis
but miserably failed.

It's is now five years since I started working on such updates and often
they've been a pain for me once they were ready, and also a source of utter
grief and frustration.  Every once in a while the problems escalated and
were discussed on mailing lists.  After that, an update was possible.
However, I was exhausted and frustrated.  That's not a healthy situation to
continue working on.

Since James Troup as ftpmaster rejected my recent request to become an
ftpmaster in order to be able to implement the changes on my own, and since
ftpmasters don't allow new people to become ftpmasters, and since the
changes Anthony Towns is proposing and implementing won't change the
requirement for an ftpmaster for stable updates, it is very clear to me
that the situation is not going to improve in the future.  Hence, I'm
giving up.

Of course, I'd support a new stable release manager in the beginning.  The
tools I've used are public anyway and so are the data.  Both could be used
as a basis.

Regards,

        Joey

--
MIME - broken solution for a broken design.  -- Ralf Baechle

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发表于 2006-3-9 21:45:47 | 显示全部楼层
Oh, what a pity!
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发表于 2006-3-9 21:52:44 | 显示全部楼层
大家都不是专职,于是就会有这样那样的问题。Debian本身很庞大,也难怪他们觉得效率低拉。
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发表于 2006-3-10 08:37:33 | 显示全部楼层
坚信有一天像Linux一定会越来越红火~~~

大家一定会踊跃加入到这样的团体中去的。我坚信!!!!

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自从接触Linux之后,我感觉我的视野变得宽广了~~~真的!
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发表于 2006-3-10 10:25:46 | 显示全部楼层
:confused: 少了一员大将啊。呵呵。可惜了。
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发表于 2006-3-10 12:43:24 | 显示全部楼层
可能是待遇差了吧
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发表于 2006-3-10 17:29:35 | 显示全部楼层
Communication 在任何团队工作中都是最重要的环节。
更何况是 Debian 这种完全依靠网络传递信息的超大型项目。
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发表于 2006-3-10 17:43:08 | 显示全部楼层
Debian里的人方方面面各行人都有,扯皮和维护工作不同步的事也是常有的,再加上义务劳工居多,意气之争也多的是,就像今年的领导人投票也不及以前活跃和Ubuntu近年的搅局等烦心的事多了去了,但Debian中大型套件的维护水平还是比较高的,很少大起大落,即使在sid中也比较稳,但一些中小型的包维护往往令人遗憾,尤其sid里,一些类似的东东冲突问题时有发生,这和敬不敬业的关系应该不大,应该根源于个人爱好很难维持在一个很高水平以及人多协调成问题有关,对稍微进阶点的桌面用户,在sid中的大型套件基础上,自己编译常用的中小软件作包安装会比较好,兼顾稳定与新颖些。我常用的fluxbox、vim等都是svn或者cvs更新自己打包使用,太大的软件自己编起来太麻烦,这也是个人不太推崇Gentoo的地方,当然如果不是arch过于求新导致的不稳定,arch也是个人使用的较好选择,Ubuntu的发家史仅就我个人而言不太欣赏,感觉有种背叛的味道以及商业味太浓
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