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OpenQ 0.3 公开测试

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发表于 2004-5-2 02:08:23 | 显示全部楼层
晕,可以了,修改之前记得先退出gaim,再修改,不然所有的值又恢复了
发表于 2004-5-2 08:51:13 | 显示全部楼层

有没有计划证实加入Gaim的发展?

我是在国外的用户。想问问有没有计划使QQ的功能能正式加入Gaim的发展?如果有一个软件能够包括国外常用的和QQ,那对在国外居住的用户来说会是非常圆满。
 楼主| 发表于 2004-5-2 10:03:40 | 显示全部楼层
如果可以加入当然是最好的,不过OpenQ的开发有一点和Gaim冲突,就是有自己的用户界面,而这是Gaim很难接受的。
发表于 2004-5-2 11:37:52 | 显示全部楼层

回复: 有没有计划证实加入Gaim的发展?

谢谢你的回复。你这个是指QQ本身系统的问题还是OpenQ的问题?
所以,你的意思是将来很难会有一个能同时兼容QQ, AIM, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ的软件?
 楼主| 发表于 2004-5-2 12:17:41 | 显示全部楼层
我指的是和gaim项目组的关系,我个人认为,Gaim项目不会接受OpenQ的.
发表于 2004-5-2 12:31:17 | 显示全部楼层
可以尝试联系他们看看他们的回复。
发表于 2004-5-2 14:19:40 | 显示全部楼层
不妨请quicktime和mandrakechina两位大虾帮帮忙做外联。他们都是论坛资历相当老的前辈了

http://www.linuxsir.cn/forum.php ... 15&pagenumber=3
发表于 2004-5-2 22:27:08 | 显示全部楼层
关于 OpenQ 能否并入 gaim ,在 gaim-devel 的邮件列表(http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=9587)里已经被讨论过了,主要围绕的问题是: 1. OpenQ 与中国有关法律是否抵触。 2. 关于代码是否通过反编译获得。3. 关于客户端上是否应提供 T****** 的广告的问题。

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchi ... 8&forum_id=9587
由于最近 sourceforge 的归档可能出现一些问题,现在只能看到 4月4日之前的,之后的邮件都无法看到,故我将我收到的这个邮件列表里有关这一主题的回复整理出来,供大家参考(上面链接里能看到的就不重复贴出了):


  1. From:        
  2. "Timo Pykalainen" <timo_pykalainen@hotmail.com>         | Block Address         | Add to Contacts
  3. To:        
  4. [email]zxj@gnuctt.net[/email]
  5. Cc:        
  6. [email]gaim-devel@lists.sourceforge.net[/email]
  7. Date:         20 Apr 2004, 12:21:44 AM
  8. Subject:         RE: [Gaim-devel] Re: Chinese Tencent QQ protocol?


  9. &gt;From: &quot;Zheng XiaoJun&quot; &lt;zxj@gnuctt.net&gt;
  10. &gt;To: [email]gaim-devel@lists.sourceforge.net[/email]
  11. &gt;Subject: [Gaim-devel] Re: Chinese Tencent QQ protocol?
  12. &gt;Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 14:45:03 GMT
  13. &gt;
  14. &gt;

  15. &gt;
  16. &gt;  Ka-Hing Cheung wrote:
  17. &gt;
  18. &gt; &gt; Oh, I agree 100% that it should be legal. Even though I don't use
  19. qq if someone
  20. &gt; &gt; wants to work out a gaim plugin based on that I think it would be
  21. cool.
  22. &gt; &gt;
  23. &gt; &gt; Out of curiorisity, anyone know why the previos QQ plugin was
  24. deemed illegal?
  25. &gt;

  26. &gt;
  27. &gt;  &quot;Tencet Inc. forced him to give up the development&quot;. That is
  28. &gt;just a guess made by other people. Neither Tencet Inc. nor
  29. &gt;ZouDan confirmed it. Even if this guess was right, we can only
  30. &gt;infer from it that the plugin had affected Tencet's profit, not
  31. &gt;that it had breaked Chinese laws.
  32. &gt;
  33. &gt;   ZouDan's qq plugin(libqq), which is based on gaim, is not free
  34. &gt;software, but gaim is GPL'd. As I know, many Chinese say that
  35. &gt;ZouDan's GaimQQ(Gaim + libqq) is illegal because they think it
  36. &gt;broke GPL.
  37. &gt;

  38. I also though that the libqq was illegal because it broke the GPL not that
  39. breaking some other laws.

  40. However I think the general relationship between e.g. Gaim and some IM
  41. protocol owner such as ICQ or Tencent QQ is more interesting. For instance
  42. QQ provides the IM access for 'free' by delivering advertisments to the
  43. users, so I think the gaim or the QQ-plugin could include an option to see
  44. these advertisements, then the owners of the IM-protocols wouldn't have the
  45. need to block out e.g. gaim users (in case they were so evil).

  46. I would like to see a framework for advertisement deliveries (of course an
  47. optional plug-in or something). Anyway I suppose some people might even want
  48. to see advertisements provided by the IM companies. Moreover users could be
  49. 'forced' to see advertisements by the IM provider by including a password or
  50. a code in the delivered advertisment messages that would activate the IM
  51. account.

  52. What do you think about this? Anyway this way the users could get the access
  53. to the IM-network with mutually beneficially way (the company would have
  54. their business and the users could choose their favourite GPL IM client).
  55. And the companies might be more cooperative with the OS community. Anyway
  56. the business is not in the protocol itself.

  57. I think the issue of legality is not about the protocol or client themselves
  58. but in the usage of the company's resources (the server).

  59. At last I am very grateful for the Gaim and OpenQ developers for providing a
  60. cool piece of software. I am quite happy with the functions of the OpenQ
  61. plugin. The developers have done great job. Thanks!

  62. timo

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  5. From:        
  6. Ka-Hing Cheung <javabsp@javabsp.org>         | Block Address         | Add to Contacts
  7. To:        
  8. Timo Pykalainen <timo_pykalainen@hotmail.com>
  9. Cc:        
  10. [email]zxj@gnuctt.net[/email], [email]gaim-devel@lists.sourceforge.net[/email]
  11. Date:         20 Apr 2004, 12:50:44 AM
  12. Subject:         Re: [Gaim-devel] Re: Chinese Tencent QQ protocol?

  13. > I also though that the libqq was illegal because it broke the GPL not that
  14. > breaking some other laws.

  15. That's what I have gathered as well. But the original poster of this thread
  16. seem to have implied that libqq was illegal because of the way it's written.

  17. > However I think the general relationship between e.g. Gaim and some IM
  18. > protocol owner such as ICQ or Tencent QQ is more interesting. For instance
  19. > QQ provides the IM access for 'free' by delivering advertisments to the
  20. > users, so I think the gaim or the QQ-plugin could include an option to see
  21. > these advertisements, then the owners of the IM-protocols wouldn't have the
  22. > need to block out e.g. gaim users (in case they were so evil).
  23. >
  24. > I would like to see a framework for advertisement deliveries (of course an
  25. > optional plug-in or something). Anyway I suppose some people might even

  26. The companies don't care that users are not given the choice of seeing the
  27. ads, they care about the users who are not forced to see the ads.

  28. > want to see advertisements provided by the IM companies. Moreover users
  29. > could be 'forced' to see advertisements by the IM provider by including a
  30. > password or a code in the delivered advertisment messages that would
  31. > activate the IM account.

  32. Now, how can you sign on to see the ads? Don't you need a password?

  33. -khc

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  18. Date:         20 Apr 2004, 01:49:37 AM
  19. Subject:         RE: [Gaim-devel] Re: Chinese Tencent QQ protocol?

  20. > I would like to see a framework for advertisement deliveries (of
  21. > course an optional plug-in or something). Anyway I suppose some
  22. > people might even want to see advertisements provided by the IM
  23. > companies. Moreover users could be 'forced' to see advertisements by
  24. > the IM provider by including a password or a code in the delivered
  25. > advertisment messages that would activate the IM account.

  26. I think that would be cool.  I mean, I'm sure no one would use it... but I
  27. find it interesting.
  28. -Mark

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  14. Date:         21 Apr 2004, 12:56:36 AM
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  16. &gt;From: Ka-Hing Cheung &lt;javabsp@javabsp.org&gt;
  17. &gt;To: Timo Pykalainen &lt;timo_pykalainen@hotmail.com&gt;
  18. &gt;CC: [email]zxj@gnuctt.net[/email], [email]gaim-devel@lists.sourceforge.net[/email]
  19. &gt;Subject: Re: [Gaim-devel] Re: Chinese Tencent QQ protocol?
  20. &gt;Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:50:44 -0700
  21. &gt;
  22. &gt; &gt; I also though that the libqq was illegal because it broke the GPL
  23. not that
  24. &gt; &gt; breaking some other laws.
  25. &gt;
  26. &gt;That's what I have gathered as well. But the original poster of this
  27. thread
  28. &gt;seem to have implied that libqq was illegal because of the way it's
  29. written.
  30. &gt;

  31. &gt; &gt; want to see advertisements provided by the IM companies. Moreover
  32. users
  33. &gt; &gt; could be 'forced' to see advertisements by the IM provider by
  34. including a
  35. &gt; &gt; password or a code in the delivered advertisment messages that
  36. would
  37. &gt; &gt; activate the IM account.
  38. &gt;
  39. &gt;Now, how can you sign on to see the ads? Don't you need a password?
  40. &gt;

  41. I was thinking that the ads could be delivered to all the IM accounts but
  42. then the client software could decide wheter show it or not. So the ad
  43. message could include the recipents IM account number and automatically
  44. generated code (or even a picture) in the ad. Then the user would have to
  45. reply to the message by sending the code shown in the ad to the system
  46. account (in case the IM network provider is dependend on advertisment
  47. revenues) in order to 'activete' hers or his account.

  48. This kind of framework could provide means for companies to choose to use
  49. open source IM protocol and still making business by providing their
  50. services. Now they just might block out the users who doesn't use their
  51. client software. Besides I bet there would be several companies whou would
  52. like to engage in IM business, but they can't because of the few strong
  53. players in the market place.

  54. In fact I was think this kind of system would work in other areas as well
  55. such as DVDs (e.g. in China I saw that many movies had ads in them so that
  56. they could be sold cheaper) but with normal ads people are just passive and
  57. wait the ad pass by.

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  12. Date:         02 May 2004, 08:13:53 PM
  13. Subject:         [Gaim-devel] Progress on QQ support

  14. Dear all,

  15. New to this list and greetings to all!

  16. I read on the dev site archive that there's been some recent discussion for
  17. QQ support by Gaim.

  18. Any more follow ups on this?

  19. I understand there was some concern by some that the code was reverse
  20. engineered. But how is that different to all the other codes that support
  21. AIM, MSN, Yahoo etc etc on Gaim and many other 3rd party clients?
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注:
在此之前还有我发的两封邮件,及他人的回复,但是很遗憾,没有能够保存下来,从后来回复的引用当中,应该可以看出其中的一部分。
发表于 2004-5-3 06:41:34 | 显示全部楼层
似乎有个Bug:
在群中添加别人作好友时默认的用户名是对方的昵称,而不是QQ号码。
发表于 2004-5-3 08:36:49 | 显示全部楼层
什么时候openq安装好后直接就能上QQ和MSN就好了。
我的没法上MSN老是提示ssl依赖。
搜索了半天,找到了个北南的帖子,看了一下,感觉太复杂了,都没敢去试。
晕呀。
http://www.linuxsir.cn/forum.php ... 6&highlight=msn
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