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[PKGBUILD] wqy-zenhei (文泉驿正黑字体)(已进入community)

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发表于 2008-1-25 11:50:55 | 显示全部楼层
Post by number5;1810945
zlowly 还是没有你快,郁闷啊....


谢谢二位,链接已经张贴到wqy首页了。希望能够引起大家的关注。
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发表于 2008-1-26 14:28:36 | 显示全部楼层
嘿,速度还真快呀,一下子投票到18了,还有Fang加入首页链接,太棒啦。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-26 23:27:10 | 显示全部楼层
刚看了下AUR里的yaourt,投票数已经达到508了,还在AUR里活得很滋润。难道和TU打好关系才有机会进community?
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发表于 2008-1-27 09:23:25 | 显示全部楼层
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刚看了下AUR里的yaourt,投票数已经达到508了,还在AUR里活得很滋润。难道和TU打好关系才有机会进community?



有没有认识的中国人做TU?我估计最重要的条件不是票数,而是有经验的TU认领并且维护这个包。

我们向debian提交的字体包,如果不是很多热心的debian中文开发者(carlos, manphiz, tchaikov, Ming Hua, zhengpeng)的积极打包,测试,以及DD (Debian Developer) Foka的支持,恐怕提交维护将是一件很困难的事情。
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发表于 2008-1-27 15:06:56 | 显示全部楼层
好像沒有中國人做Archlinux的開發.
因為并不是很出名的版本.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-27 15:28:39 | 显示全部楼层
房大说得也有道理,在AUR的邮件里也有提到这个,投票数并不是决定性的,它只是给TU的决策参考,TU第一位的任务保证包的质量,TU倾向于维护他自己常用和熟悉的包那是很正常的。不过总的来说就是“上面没人”啊,如果有个中国人TU肯定容易很多啊。
房大如果有精力的话,不妨和archlinux的人交涉一下,毕竟文泉驿已经在不少发行版里站了一席之地。想必大部分中国人都是不满意文鼎字体,如果不选择ms的宋体或者雅黑,基本上都会是用文泉驿的了。

其实如果象ubuntu那样中国自己有个ubuntu-cn库的话,可能就自主很多,不知道国内有没有人能自愿贡献些空间做个arch-cn库?

http://archlinux.org/pipermail/a ... January/006761.html

When the AUR voting was first implemented this very thing was discussed.
Since the TU's had always decided for themselves what should go into the
repos it was a concern to the TUs that this remain the way things worked.
The voting was merely a way to help a TU make decisions. It was promised
that the voting would never be used to dictate to a TU what was placed
into the repo.

Further, the AUR's voting mechanism is NOT based on anything that can be
trusted to indicate either actual usage OR need of the downstream user.
Even a download counter may not necessarily indicate this qualitative
quantity.

A TU remained a TU because he or she was doing a *Quality* job, and it was
also promised that *quantity* (either too much or too little) was NEVER to
be used as a criteria for continued participation as a TU. Adding any
particular package to the repo was specifically the job of a DEV and NOT
the job of a TU. It was promised that this distinction would always be the
case.

Why? Well the TU repo was designed to be more loosely run than the repos
the dev's used. It was to be a place for new ideas and packages that were
of a personal nature to a TU. Anyone could become a TU as long as they
showed enough talent and concern about Quality. The ONLY obligation of a
TU was to maintain a TRUST by QUALITY. At one point even the dev's were
encouraged to use the TU repo for binaries that they felt did not belong
in the dev. maintained repo. Although this practice has fell by the
wayside, it still has merit.

Specifically Arch was always a distro that encouraged participation and
new ideas. It also emphasized a K.I.S.S. principle and the values that
most linux distros share in terms of being both volunteer based and a
meritocracy. <- I personally can think of no better way to insure that we
stray from these ideals than to make up too many rules and too many
obstacles to anyone desiring to participate as they can and are
able to do. i.e. We should all find ways to make the TU position one of
something other than a JOB that requires too much other than personal
fulfillment.

And remember that ANY time to make things more specific and rigid, you
WILL have unintended consequences and worse a real chance for blow-back
affecting you personally. It certainly will make the TU position less
attractive to request and THEN we ALL suffer.


Very best regards;

Bob Finch

Liviu Librescu - În veci pomenirea lui.
(May his memory be eternal.)
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发表于 2008-1-28 14:32:26 | 显示全部楼层
刚刚给aur-general邮件列表写了封信,CC了你和txcary,可惜你的zlowly<at>archlinux.org直接退件了。等mail list的web post出来后,我把信的link贴出来。
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发表于 2008-1-29 05:09:15 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-29 09:19:52 | 显示全部楼层
嗯,看到了,到底还是FangQ的英文好啊。包里我的email忘了改成gmail的了。

maillist里的回应很快啊,虽然有不同的声音意见,但最后还是有位热心的TU DaNiMoTh承担了。这一两天应该就可以放到社区仓库里了。
http://archlinux.org/pipermail/a ... January/006905.html

其实我认为wqy应该进入extra的,你看ttf-fireflysung也在extra里啊,发展不比firefly差的wqy应该也有资格才对(请勿误解,并没有任何看不起萤火虫的意思,fireflysung也是很棒的字体)。

另外讨论中还提到一位台湾TU:shinlun
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trusted_Users#shinlun
我都没留意到TU里有中国人。这就好了,语言上应该没什么隔阂,大家日后有关于AUR的问题,例如这次这样需要加某个软件到社区仓库,试一下联系他吧。



题外话:我的firefox3不知道为什么看上面的Fanq帖子内容是一片空白,我是看Html源文件才知道内容里是一条url地址的。这是linuxsir的问题还是我的问题?
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发表于 2008-1-29 09:54:36 | 显示全部楼层
唉,到底是小社区,top post 现象严重,archlinux 应该科普下 learn2quote
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