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想问问大家gentoo和slackware的区别

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发表于 2004-11-15 10:06:23 | 显示全部楼层
> 我的硬盘以及时间都比较欠缺一些

Then stick with Slackware. Once a system is ready for working, keep it running as long as it can. Do NOT waste your time on switching/reinstalling systems. Do NOT even think about it - trust me, it's just wasting time. For me, no other distros have ever had any attraction to me after I setup my very first Slackware for work.
发表于 2004-11-15 11:46:05 | 显示全部楼层
最初由 terminator 发表

For me, no other distros have ever had any attraction to me after I setup my very first Slackware for work.


A diehard slacker :2cool
发表于 2004-11-15 12:28:19 | 显示全部楼层
最初由 gnwd 发表
哦,valuable information, may I will try it later, thank you and "kite". But now I do want to know more about it. especially personal option.

about how to make a package, i think, most of softwares can easily use: ./configure;make; make install. certainly, there are still some annoying software which can not be packaged easily, no matter what distribution(pkg system) you are using.

some tools have made package-making comfortable on slackware. linuxpackages.net also meet our need at a certain extent.

so what sets arch linux apart from other linux(including slackware) in the manner of managing own packages( and  create own packages).


* Arch has *official* apt-get-like package system (simpler than apt-get but easier to handle for me)
* Arch has *official* portage-like package build system

So package-building and package maintenance is neat and simple.

You may better check out www.archlinux.org
发表于 2004-11-15 12:32:59 | 显示全部楼层
Good!
 楼主| 发表于 2004-11-15 13:47:47 | 显示全部楼层
最初由 terminator 发表
> 我的硬盘以及时间都比较欠缺一些

Then stick with Slackware. Once a system is ready for working, keep it running as long as it can. Do NOT waste your time on switching/reinstalling systems. Do NOT even think about it - trust me, it's just wasting time. For me, no other distros have ever had any attraction to me after I setup my very first Slackware for work.


I just a little disapprove of what you said, that is," D not even think about it".

Think is always important and It may not always be a waste of time, otherwise, various distributions would not delivered to the world. We should concentrate our attentions to What will I do and What am I doing.

for me, I just want a nice distribution to house me. Slackware is a good house, but it have some disadvantages(perhaps) mentioned above.But I can not clarify what features I need. so, in my leisure hours, I will consider the question and ask for others opnions as reference.
All are interest-driven.

thanks for your advice
:thank
 楼主| 发表于 2004-11-15 13:54:58 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2004-11-16 13:26:10 | 显示全部楼层
to gnwd

Seriously, I have to confirm that 'terminator' is right.

My experience about Arch:
Arch is a wonderful and cool Linux distro for modern people who want to keep
their systems clean and up-to-date. I thought she's just for your desire. To
tell the truth, I was really impressed by the boot process and fantastic speed
of Arch. But she's not so perfect as the Devland proudly described.
Occasionally, I suffered 'Kernel panic' and 'Segmentation fault' during the
last 6 months, and the most serious problem I recently got was some buggy
programs like fdisk, cannot work properly in some high optimized boxes, like
Arch. This is the reason that I came back to Slackware.

Arch is just like a young girl, isn't she?

My experience about Slackware:
I had tried about ten different Linux distros, such as Redhat, Debian,
Slackware, Arch, LFS, Crux, Sorcerer, Lunar, etc. Yes, each of them has his
own pitfalls and also solutions to these pitfalls. But the question left to be
settled now is "which to choose?". I hardly believe any of us will spend their
full lives on trying hundreds of different Linux distros one by one. (However,
if we had enough time, we could build our own Linux distro). So we definitely
need to make a choice. 'Which to choose' depends on our TARGETs and TASTEs
really.

I did at last make choice of Slackware after a long time shuffling among these
damn Linux distros, and don't wanna change anymore. The shuffling is really
boring, time wasting and made me tired. I should have read APUE and the source
code of a project, which is the right way to learn UNIX. That is why I thought
'terminator' was wiser than me.

Why did I make choice of Slackware? For me, there are two serious reasons:
1.
Patrick has ten years experience on the development of Linux distro, so we trust him.

2. Personally, for my own comparison, Slackware provides us with the most
effective way to build a full functional software platform.

I hope my experience can help

Best Regards
发表于 2004-11-16 14:17:02 | 显示全部楼层

回复: 想问问大家gentoo和slackware的区别

最初由 gnwd 发表
我一直是使用slackware的。平时比较忙,很想试试gentoo,因为对其freebsd-like的portage方式有些感兴趣。
但是一直没有腾出时间来。
大家普遍觉得gentoo比较费时,真是这样吗?从stage3安装预编译的包难道也需要很多的时间?我不是性能追求者。我希望一个系统能尽可能给用户方便,只是在必要的时候才动手编译自己需要的东西。从这一点上,我不知道gentoo能不能满足我的要求呢?

slackware很好。但是有时候用久了,加之使用过程疏于打整,安装的东西一多,难免就有些乱了,虽然可以使用一些三方工具建包,例如checkinstall,slacktrack的。但不知道怎么搞的,就是觉得还是容易将系统搞乱~

如果预编译的包的数量很多(gentoo)相对就能减少这种困惑,不是吗?几个命令就搞定,不要再下载什么中文包,或者配置字体,每次都要重新来一遍。呵呵,顺便说一句,我的系统还是slackware9,当初对系统的一些改动虽然也做了log,时间一远,还是忘记了不少东西。

主要是没有时间。想问问熟悉两个系统的使用者,尤其是熟悉两个系统的包管理的使用者。建一个gentoo的包(或者redhat等)的包与建slack的包有什么不同,我想这是keypoint。依赖性不是关键,主要是怎么能干净的安装一个东西,然后干净的删除一个东西。毕竟在两个系统下都会有自己编译软件包的可能。



當我在選擇一個distro用以代替家裏的破WINDOWS的時候(沒辦法,太爛了),我對幾個主流的發行版都研究很久,最終選擇了Gentoo,因爲它的portage和神奇的emerge,最終證明我的決定是英明D 剛開始的時候不熟悉,重裝過好幾次,真是挺折騰人的,那時就在想,到底是我用它還是它用我啊,於是就試過幾個別的版本,很容易裝上的那種,使用也很方便,但速度、包的管理、系統的維護等方面都覺得怎麽用怎麽不順,反正是越用就越覺得原?鞧entoo的好,於是經過幾回的叛變後,決定以後再也不換了,就它了
看看我簽名的,在那個硬件基礎上搭建這個花了一天的時間。不過如果要搭好一個日常使用的平台及應用,我想兩天是比較合理的;)
 楼主| 发表于 2004-11-16 16:51:19 | 显示全部楼层
最初由 Dasn 发表


Yes, you're right. In fact, I am also tired of this procedure. So until now, I just stay on words but not actually do it.

I went to archlinux and gentoo websites, but I found if I changes to those platform, there are some knowledges I have to learn. I have be familiar to slackware, so it may be a waste of time to make a move.

Thanks for your experience after enduring various impact during installing various distros.
 楼主| 发表于 2004-11-16 16:56:46 | 显示全部楼层

回复: 回复: 想问问大家gentoo和slackware的区别

最初由 Jwing 发表
當我在選擇一個distro用以代替家裏的破WINDOWS的時候(沒辦法,太爛了),我對幾個主流的發行版都研究很久,最終選擇了Gentoo,因爲它的portage和神奇的emerge,最終證明我的決定是英明D 剛開始的時候不熟悉,重裝過好幾次,真是挺折騰人的,那時就在想,到底是我用它還是它用我啊,於是就試過幾個別的版本,很容易裝上的那種,使用也很方便,但速度、包的管理、系統的維護等方面都覺得怎麽用怎麽不順,反正是越用就越覺得原?鞧entoo的好,於是經過幾回的叛變後,決定以後再也不換了,就它了
看看我簽名的,在那個硬件基礎上搭建這個花了一天的時間。不過如果要搭好一個日常使用的平台及應用,我想兩天是比較合理的;)


gentoo的文档倒是在官方网站上组织得不错,从这一点上就可以感觉到开发者们的积极态度,it must be a well-organized distribution.
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